The current state of figure skating is depressing me--so much so that I've temporarily stopped following the Grand Prix altogether--so I thought I would go back to a more golden time in my fandom. Behold, the crude genius of Machiko Yamada:
Half a Century at a Downtown Rink: Figure Skating Coach Machiko Yamada
(Nagoya Sports Center, Nagoya Central District)
Male Narrator: Today we will be speaking with the Nagoya figure skating coach who raised Midori Ito and Mao Asada, Machiko Yamada.
Machiko Yamada: I look forward to working with you.
Male Interviewer: It's very humid (outside), but it's nice and cool inside this rink.
Machiko Yamada: Right? Every time an interviewer comes to me in the summer, they always say, "Coach, you have such a great job," but it's not really good for the body, is it. There's a huge temperature difference, you know?
Male Interviewer: But without almost any breaks you spend long periods of time here, in this place.
Machiko Yamada: Yes that's true. Well, I was about 7 years old when I started skating, and now I'm turning 64, so how many years is that? And out of the 365 days in a year, I've been here with almost no breaks, from when I was little--from when I was a competitor--as if this is my home, I've lived a long time in this cold and this smell.
Male Narrator: Yamada, who started skating at age 7, while in high school won the National Inter-High School Championships and the National Athletic Championships. However, while in college she retired from competitive skating at the age of 20. After that, she was asked by various parents to teach their children skating, and she began coaching at this rink. Since then, she has been coaching for 45 years. She has raised numerous skaters who make the world (international competitions) their stage. Seven of her students have won international competitions.
Male Interviewer (Takayuki Tsukamoto): Why did you follow the path of a coach rather than an athlete?
Machiko Yamada: Originally--I was skating from since I was young--when I was little, I supposedly said, "I like skating," but I have no memory of that. I guess my parents had made me skate, by the time I realized it... And it wasn't really that fun, my Meiji-era-born parents were strict, and it wasn't fun and I was skating. I retired and by chance began teaching a little part-time, so I said I would marry and stop teaching, then I said when I had kids I would stop teaching, but while I was thinking about it I met Midori, and little by little I was pulled into this world as a coach. So it wasn't my original dream from when I was young, to become a coach.
Male Narrator: The thing that changed Yamada's destiny was her meeting with the then-five Midori Ito. It was decided that she would coach Midori, who came to the rink almost every day and whose presence drew attention.
Machiko Yamada: That she was a smart child was my first impression. Usually, children don't, well, do or say much, but she would step in front of her mother and listen really well, like if I said, "Please do this or bring that starting tomorrow," she would be like, "Okay! Okay!" I guess you would say it was a very active, responsive listening style. And she was a child with good instincts. Once I started coaching her, I realized that she had jumping ability, and good athleticism... but I never thought that she would shock the world or anything like that.
(Machiko Yamada's home)
Midori Ito: So I put in the spinach?
Machiko Yamada: Not yet, not yet. This isn't boiled yet.
Male Narrator: In order to create a more focused environment, Yamada made Midori move into her home. From overseeing her diet to discussing her worries together, over approximately fifteen years Yamada served a mother role to Midori.
Machiko Yamada: Midori, you eat the spinach.
(Nagoya Sports Center)
Male Narrator: Midori, who became a top skater in a three-leggedly (a close and collaborative partnership with Yamada, as in a three-legged race), battled pressure leading up to the 1992 Albertville Olympics.
Machiko Yamada: Right now you're doing a change, and then twice, right? You should stop doing that, that weird thing. You know, instead of a normal Lutz, you do one more of this thing--
Midori Ito: Yeah. But I get more speed that way.
Machiko Yamada: The whole world thought that there was no question of Midori winning the gold medal, she was considered the top skater. But, before that (the Olympics), because of the pressure and everything, she really hadn't practiced--she hadn't skated for several months, because of everything--she didn't want to be out there.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Really?
Machiko Yamada: And that's how we went--I can talk about this now--but it was that kind of competition, Albertville.
(1992 Albertville Olympics)
French fans/spectators: Everyone is counting on Midori! ... Midori is a great skater! ...
Male Commentator: Now, Japan's Midori Ito.
Male Narrator: Midori, who stood on this huge stage under heavy pressure. She would attempt the triple Axel, which no woman had ever done at an Olympic Games.
Male Commentator: Triple Axel... ah! A mistake!
(Nagoya Sports Center)
Machiko Yamada: She made a mistake on the first triple Axel, and then... the other part, it was made for any kind of jump--a lutz, a flip, an Axel--so there was this space, this part of the music in her program--
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: --and I was wondering what she would do there, but she was skating the triple Axel lead-in pattern, and I thought, 'Oh, she's going to do it!' And usually in the second half (of a program), it's easy to make mistakes on the more difficult jumps.
(1992 Albertville Olympics)
Male Commentator: Triple Axel! She did it!
Male Narrator: By successfully completing the second triple Axel, Midori won the silver medal, the first for a Japanese figure skater. The successes of Midori, who possessed jumps and other high-difficulty skills, sent a breath a fresh air into the figure skating world tat up to this point had placed emphasis on artistry. Overnight, Yamada too became a focus of attention.
(Nagoya Sports Center)
Machiko Yamada: If I had never met Midori, I don't know if I would still be coaching now, and... I could have just gone the normal route of raising my daughter, and become a good grandmother... But, there was Midori, a child of that talent had come to me, and I felt a responsibility to coach, and I ended up becoming someone who was competing against all the world-class coaches that I saw on TV, the great coaches I admired who to me were figures above the clouds (out of reach)... But, the whole who gave me that was also Midori. So, I guess... there was Midori, and so there is me today. I don't want to go as far as to say thanks, but...
Male Narrator: The skating rink is right by one of Japan's three major sacred Buddhist grounds, Oosu Kannon. The history of this temple city, Oosu, begins in the Edo Period, and like Tokyo's Asakusa District is teeming with a downtown vibe. There are many shops centered around Oosu Kannon, and there are many people out and about.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: It's this way, right?
Machiko Yamada: Yes.
(restaurant)
Male Narrator: In one corner of this city, there is a restaurant that Yamada has frequented for over 50 years, since her days as a competitive athlete.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Hello, please excuse me.
Restaurant Woman: Welcome!
Machiko Yamada: Where should we sit?
Restaurant Man: Anyway, I've known her (Yamada) since her days in her sailor clothing (Japanese schoolgirl uniform).
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Really?
Machiko Yamada: Yes, right?
Male Narrator: She's a little younger than me, but--
Machiko Yamada: That's not true! We're like the same age.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Oh, thank you.
Machiko Yamada: Since there's practice again tonight...
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes, so you're going to prepare by eating beforehand...
Machiko Yamada: Right.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Male Narrator: Yamada's favored dish is ramen.
Machiko Yamada: First, please try drinking the broth.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Okay.
Machiko Yamada: It's a very normal broth. Even though as a skating coach I shouldn't be advertising ramen... Mmm, delicious.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: The traditional Japanese flavor is very, I guess you would say, downtown...
Machiko Yamada: Right. Ramen a very, very long time ago was like this.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: So, in Nagoya--
Machiko Yamada: Okay, let's eat ramen.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Okay, we'll eat, we'll eat. Because the noodles will get limp.
Machiko Yamada: That's right. You, have a bite, then ask a question.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Okay. The good part of Oosu, well, I think there are also the foods like this, but I think it's the downtown, working-class feeling--what do you think?
Machiko Yamada: Figure skating and Oosu are pretty far removed from each other, as I always say.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: That's true, image-wise...
Machiko Yamada: I mean figure skating is a city sport, it's not a sport of cold-weather regions. Sometimes people misunderstand and say things like, "Oh of course, Tohoku (Northernmost six prefectures of Honshu) or Hokkaido must be powerhouses of figure skating, but that's ice hockey or speed skating. Figure skating is of course in places like New York--place that are cold but still urban.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: I see.
Machiko Yamada: So in Japan, places like Tokyo... a long time ago, there were three skating rinks in Shinagawa (district of Tokyo): a figure skating rink, an ice hockey rink, and a public rink. They were very impressive, and next to it was Shinagawa's hotel. Whenever the athletes would go to the rink, all of the mothers would get into their foreign cars and race to the rink, and their children would be in lessons--and of course parents couldn't go in--so in the hotel they would have coffee or tea as they waited. It's quite elegant, isn't it?
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes, it is.
Machiko Yamada: Right? But us, everyone would come in on their bicycles with their children riding on the back, and they'd be like, "Coach! I just bought hot takoyaki, would you like some?"--that's where we come from.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Oh it was that kind of atmosphere?
Machiko Yamada: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Wow, I see...
Machiko Yamada: So it's a bit far removed from figure skating. But, it's because of that that there was Midori Ito, if you look at it the other way--a different kind of skater.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Is that so?
Machiko Yamada: Yeah, if it were Shin-Yokohama or Tokyo, I might have taught her more elegantly, but haha... If we didn't go about it in a slightly different way, things just wouldn't have fit, probably.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: I see. So you started coaching in Nagoya, and an athlete named Midori Ito emerged, and you became famous--
Machiko Yamada: Yes, yes, yes.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: After that, you continued on here--what was the reason for that?
Machiko Yamada: Almost all Japanese figure skaters, such as Emi Watanabe--do you know her?--and a little while before that, Igarashi, and all of them--almost none of them skated in Japan, they were training over there, and they would only enter competitions as Japanese people. And so I found that frustrating, and of course a "Made in Japan"--and for me a "Made in Nagoya," I guess you would say--seemed nice. It's not such a spectacular environment, but even from there--it's not quite a "if you do it you can do it," but... just being here, and (developing while) taking advantage of its best parts... Teaching this way is right for me, and I want to try to the end of my limits.
(2002 Salt Lake City Olympics)
Male Commentator: The arena has come alive with the announcing of Yoshie Onda's name. ...Double Axel, good height. And once more! Yes.
(Nagoya Sports Center)
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Many athletes who compete on the world stage have emerged (from here). Where do you think lies the reason that you have been able to raise so many top athletes?
Machiko Yamada: I wonder why it is... First, I guess if I were to name our top unique characteristic, it would be "family-style"? To the extent that people in the skating world often call us "Yamada Family," not a club but a family. So, everyone, parents and children, take each other's hands--parents and children and teachers, they take each other's hands--and they're trying together? It's family-like, so there's longevity--like there are a lot of children who continue skating for a long time. So as we go along like this, children who may or may not be talented, whether it's Yoshie or Yukari or whoever--the Maos are a little bit different, but--they emerge and become athletes who go out into the world, I think... I get this type of question a lot, like 'Why do so many skaters who can do the triple Axel come from you?,' and you can ask why but it's like, "Nothing in particular. I don't do anything special."
Male Narrator: The characteristic of Yamada's club, dubbed the "Yamada Family," can be found rinkside. Amidst the many clubs that do not allow parents rinkside, Yamada has the parents proactively participate in the practices.
Machiko Yamada: You see, normally--and this isn't just about skating, it applies to any type of lesson--it's difficult for the coaches if they're always being observed by the parents. But in our case, I... well, it costs money, and it takes time, so I want the parents to take an interest. If not, the skating (lessons) can't really continue. So my philosophy is, "Let's go down to the rink together, and let's try this together." So the parents end up coming every day, and their eyes become trained. Right? They understand more than some of the bad judges. And as a result, they start teaching from rinkside, the parents. And if a student learns a new skill, and for example lands it on one foot, even if they're excited about it, if no one is looking it's a little disappointing, right? You know, because it's their own free practice time. But parents are really watching only their children, so they'll be like, 'Yes! You landed it!' and even for the little things, they'll say, 'You did well today,' and 'Coach was saying this-and-that, so why don't you pay more attention to this,' so even in the household these conversations will take place, right?
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: That's my aim.
Skating Mother: I end up wanting to say, "That's no good," or, "You're not doing it correctly," and bit by bit I get very into it, more into it than my children...
Skater1: I am taught by my mother, but if I'm scolded I get very aargh.
Skater2 (Kanako Murakami): I know, I know!
Skater1: Right? It's really like that.
Kanako Murakami: I get mad easily too.
Interviewer: What does Yamada say in situations like this?
Skaters: Keep at it!
Kanako Murakami: She's a kind and funny teacher. She's always laughing, yes.
Male Narrator: Four years ago, many of Yamada's students and their parents celebrated her 60th birthday. The pendant she received for the occasion is Yamada's treasured possession. Skating family--engraved is "From your skating family."
(Nagoya Sports Center)
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Is there something like a motto that you hold important when it comes to coaching?
Machiko Yamada: Um... like I said at the very beginning, I didn't really like skating that much--learning from my strict parents and members of the federation, I didn't really like it--so maybe if I had been taught in a more fun way, I think that maybe I would have been slightly better when I was a competitive skater. So I want there to be an enjoyable rink for the children, and also when the children are three or five or however old they are when they start skating, and then until they graduate college at 22--they spend their most formative youth years with me and with skating. So instead of being "skate-stupid" (the only thing they know about and how to do is skating-related)--I might be scolded for saying that--you know, if they live until they're 80, life after skating is long, isn't it?
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: So, of course, when these children who skate are being molded, I want us (adults) to give them what we can--I want to give them all I can give them. I do think that way.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: So is that nurturing or cultivating persons...?
Machiko Yamada: I can't say anything that self-important, but... the things I've learned in my life, such as 'I wanted to be like that,' 'I wanted to live like that,' 'That's not good,' or 'That's not really good for children'--the things I've learned? How do I say this?--instructions from the experiences that a 64-year-old old woman has had?
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: Things like that, I guess I'm always dropping? So more than the skating jumps, there might be some of that. And I think that in fact these things show themselves in performances. It just works out that quiet children tend to skate elegantly, while outgoing and noisy children skate with power and speed. Their personalities come out.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: So no matter how quiet or outgoing, I feel that in their body movements or in lots of places, their goodness of character comes out. So what I often say is that as a coach, of course I prefer first place, but if you're going to be a first-place whom everyone dislikes, then I would prefer a third-place or a fourth-place finisher whom everyone says is a good and beautiful person--I do say that all the time.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: You mean character is important, right?
Machiko Yamada: Yes. So, I'm like that too. In order to be a person who's thought of as "I really like Coach" or "I love her," then instead of being all fake and, "Oh hello, what a lovely daughter, how talented--NO! That's wrong!," I want to be free from the bottom of my heart. Then everyone will know the real Yamada, and I want to be the kind of person whom they will love including my faults. I want the children to become such people too.
Takayuki Tsukamoto: I see. So as a coach, things that make you glad that you are...?
Machiko Yamada: Let's see... Well, if I hadn't been a coach, I probably wouldn't have been able to learn so much, and I wouldn't have met all of these different people, so I would have been a little more normal middle-aged woman--an even more normal middle-aged woman. Of course, I'm glad that there is skating in my life, and I feel blessed--I've happened to meet so many good people--Midori and the many mothers that I happened to meet--and the children have married and have been blessed with grandchildren. And all of the mothers of our "family" say, 'You are such a fortunate person," and I really--I don't want to go back in my life, I talk about this a lot: 'If you could go back, what age would you want to go back to?', like there's 'I want to go back to the basic English lessons of middle school,' or 'I want to go back to the spring of my twenties,' right?
Takayuki Tsukamoto: Yes.
Machiko Yamada: But I don't think a happiness such as this will come, so I don't want to do anything over.
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From the Archives: 12.17.2009 テレビ朝日：Kohei Uchimura Interview
This is almost a year old, but in celebration of November (?) and Kohei Uchimura's second consecutive World All-Around title... Please do not repost without permission.
Studio Announcer: And next, Shuzo Matsuoka.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): Yes, thank you. Again this year, Japanese athletes really did well on the world stage. There was the WBC, and Ichiro... And there was this person, gymnastics' Kohei Uchimura, who won the gold medal at the World Championships. Where do the secrets to his greatness lie--well, it turns out he owns a 1,000,000-yen treasure.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): At the World Championships this past October, Kohei Uchimura won the All-Around gold medal. Between the World Championships and the Olympics, he is the seventh Japanese man to achieve this brilliant feat. Among these seven, at 20 years of age he is the youngest in Japanese history. Floor. Pommel Horse. Vault. Still Rings. Parallel Bars. High Bar. The All-Around is contested by the total combined scores across all six events. The athlete who wins rules gymnastics, and is given the name King of Gymnastics.
Koji Gushiken (1984 Los Angeles Olympics All-Around Gold Medalist): Those with lower body strength have no upper body strength, and those with upper body strength have no lower body strength. It's just splits up this way. The All-Around--the challenge is that you have to do all six events...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): This 20-year-old gold medalist--what is the secret to his greatness? Uchimura, currently a third-year student at Nippon Sport Science University...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): For example, "You have to win the gold medal," or statements like that--there is pressure coming in from around you, right?
Kohei Uchimura: Yeah. But even if people say things like that... I do listen, but at the actual competition, I'm only thinking about my performances.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Did you have any doubts anywhere about being able to win the gold medal?
Kohei Uchimura: When it becomes the day of the meet, there aren't any doubts... Really, if I don't go in with full confidence, I can't do well.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): You know, I think everyone around here has felt it--in a good way, you're very low-key, aren't you?
Kohei Uchimura: Haha, I don't know.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Is this how you normally are?
Kohei Uchimura: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): This shy Uchimura--his greatest characteristic is his landings. It is the one skill that is common to all of the events. Even a small break in his landings will result in big point deductions.
Kohei Uchimura: I first have to think about doing my routines well, but my focus on sticking my landings is almost just as strong.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): So how is Uchimura able to precisely stick his landings? Athens Olympic Gold Medalist, Hiroyuki Tomita, says that Uchimura's talent lies in the phases before the landing.
Hiroyuki Tomita (2004 Athens Olympics Team Gold Medalist): His midair sense is very good. For example, when you're in the air, if the timing of your twisting is off--being able to keenly pick up on that is one aspect of midair sense.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): In the air, even while rotating intensely, his ability to adjust his timing and form--this is what makes his accurate landings possible.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): This sense, where do you think you most honed it?
Kohei Uchimura: Well it would have to be the trampoline when I was little... Having played on the trampoline is a big part of it.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Uchimura's starting point: in fact it was not a normal trampoline, but rather a gymnastics training trampoline 20m in length on which one can do an approach run. It was on this trampoline that Uchimura's gymnastics life was developed.
Isahaya City, Nagasaki Prefecture. The gym that his former gymnast parents is here. In one corner, That Thing was still there. Uchimura first jumped on this training trampoline when he visited a gymnastics club in Tokyo at the age of 5. It was a valuable piece of equipment that at the time was not yet commonly used in Japan. His parents say that they received quite a shock, watching their son jump around on that training trampoline.
Shuko Uchimura (Mother): He was a child who would do an abnormally wide range of things on the trampoline. He did a back flip!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): On the trampoline?
Shuko Uchimura: Yes. And I remember even now, saying, "No doing back flips!" It was around when he was 4 or 5 years old. We said, "What?!"
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): He just did a back flip by himself?
Shuko Uchimura: He did one by himself.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Being able to do tricks that were impossibly difficult on the floor--having tasted this sense of satisfaction, Uchimura would from then on plead for a trampoline every time they went to Tokyo. However, the price of a trampoline: 1,000,000 yen! (approximately $10,000) It was an item that could not easily be obtained. Yet on his eleventh birthday...
Shuko Uchimura: He would say, "I want that trampoline... that trampoline is so nice," so we thought that even if we had to sacrifice everything else, we wanted to just buy this for him. (We thought that it would be worth it) If on the trampoline, this child tried more and more skills, and with it actually mastered and retained something...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): At long last Uchimura got his treasured heart's desire.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): What was it like, when you received it?
Kohei Uchimura: It was like a toy. It was like the swings at a park or something.
Shuko Uchimura: He was on the trampoline all the time. He spent more time playing on this trampoline than he did on any of the actual equipment.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): 'Next, I want to try that skill...!' His ideas grew and grew. What his mother brought out was a notebook Uchimura filled when he was in elementary school.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Wow, this is amazing!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): The notebook was packed with drawings of numerous skills. Full-twisting double back layout. Skills that Uchimura dreamed of doing, such as a double twisting double salto, were carefully drawn one by one. It was like he was a learned scholar of gymnastics. What he imagined and drew were always perfect-10 performances.
Shuko Uchimura: He would imagine, and draw by hand like this--he would draw figures, and say, "If I think I understand it, then I can do it."
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Wow...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): And Uchimura also regularly used this... a Pink Panther stuffed animal!
Shuko Uchimura: He was lying on the sofa, doing this (with his hands), so I thought, 'What?' And he would make noises as he did this--shhhhhh, like this--and when I asked, "What are you doing?" he said, "Image training." He would say things like, "Double twisting double somersault!" as he did it...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): And as the dad, what did you think?
Kazuhisa Uchimura (Father): I thought, 'Is he going to be okay (safe)?'
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): One would worry a bit, right? So he played with it too much--
Shuko Uchimura: It turned all black, the color was almost charcoal grey--
Kazuhisa Uchimura: It became like a Black Panther.
Shuko Uchimura: And once, I thought, 'What?' because the Pink Panther was lying on his bed, and he said, "It was so dirty that I washed it." That was cute.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): He would try on the trampoline a skill that he imagined in his mind, and if could do it, then he would imagine a new skill. As he spent his days doing this, his competition results grew. As a middle schooler, he competed at the (Middle School) National Championships. When he was in high school, he dominated the (High School) National Championships.
Kohei Uchimura: It's kind of like I naturally learned the skills while I was playing around.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Really, gymnastics for you, rather than contested events, is play.
Kohei Uchimura: I think probably yes. Play... it's like, play I take very seriously.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): And at 19 years old he was chosen to represent Japan at the Beijing Olympics.
Commentator: And at the end, a triple twist. He stuck it! An amazing performance from Uchimura!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): In the All-Around, he won the first Japanese medal in 27 years. The midair sense he mastered on the trampoline had along the line become a weapon that translated onto the world stage.
Commentator: And in the All-Around, he's completed it all...!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Furthermore, Uchimura is now training new skills in preparation for the London Olympics in three years. The skill he is working on currently is on the floor event. Of the over 130 recognized skills, there are only two that are of the highest rank: huge skills of G difficulty.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Now, what just happened now?
Kohei Uchimura: I rotated twice backwards in a tuck position, and twisted three times sideways.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): This... is a skill that people can do?
Kohei Uchimura: I was able to do it, haha.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): He has recently become able to successfully do this skill on the floor as well. Popularly known as the "Lee Johnson." He is twisting three times while rotating twice backwards! Please watch it one more time. Uchimura says that from here on he will start challenging himself to do the hardest skills not just on floor but on all of the events. There is no end to this determination.
Kohei Uchimura: If everyone does the same things, it's not interesting for those watching, right? I think that I have to find and perform my own trademark skills, appealing to people through my ability to do things that are different from what others are doing.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Appeal?
Kohei Uchimura: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): You really get the sense that for Uchimura, gymnastics is truly a serious form of play, a beautiful art form. At the World Championships (2009), something happened that really represented this attitude: the last event (in the All-Around) was this high bar, and at this point there was already no question that he had won gold. His landing--it missed by a step. Even with this he won the gold medal. Normally, since he had won the gold medal, he could pump his fists, but he stuck out his tongue! When I asked him why he stuck out his tongue, he said that he wasn't satisfied (with himself). This wasn't good enough. Along with feeling that that because he is so focused he has these obsessions--you saw him training, right?
Studio Announcer: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): The thing that left the biggest impression on me was his extra (overtime) training. Usually extra training carries a sense of being pressured, but he's turned his gym into an amusement park. It's so much fun for him! At an amusement park, you go on rides and have fun, but he has so much fun with just his own body, and as an athlete (Shuzo Matsuoka is a former professional tennis player) I was so envious I couldn't stand it! With that kind of attitude, I thought, of course he'll improve...
Studio Announcer: You get the feeling that his body has become an amusement park ride for his mind.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): Yes, exactly. I think so.
Studio Announcer: But as fun as it may be, there must be struggles somewhere that he doesn't show anybody... And because of that it becomes even more fun.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): All the more reason to be so focused.
Studio Announcer: Yes, it must be.
Studio Announcer: And next, Shuzo Matsuoka.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): Yes, thank you. Again this year, Japanese athletes really did well on the world stage. There was the WBC, and Ichiro... And there was this person, gymnastics' Kohei Uchimura, who won the gold medal at the World Championships. Where do the secrets to his greatness lie--well, it turns out he owns a 1,000,000-yen treasure.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): At the World Championships this past October, Kohei Uchimura won the All-Around gold medal. Between the World Championships and the Olympics, he is the seventh Japanese man to achieve this brilliant feat. Among these seven, at 20 years of age he is the youngest in Japanese history. Floor. Pommel Horse. Vault. Still Rings. Parallel Bars. High Bar. The All-Around is contested by the total combined scores across all six events. The athlete who wins rules gymnastics, and is given the name King of Gymnastics.
Koji Gushiken (1984 Los Angeles Olympics All-Around Gold Medalist): Those with lower body strength have no upper body strength, and those with upper body strength have no lower body strength. It's just splits up this way. The All-Around--the challenge is that you have to do all six events...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): This 20-year-old gold medalist--what is the secret to his greatness? Uchimura, currently a third-year student at Nippon Sport Science University...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): For example, "You have to win the gold medal," or statements like that--there is pressure coming in from around you, right?
Kohei Uchimura: Yeah. But even if people say things like that... I do listen, but at the actual competition, I'm only thinking about my performances.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Did you have any doubts anywhere about being able to win the gold medal?
Kohei Uchimura: When it becomes the day of the meet, there aren't any doubts... Really, if I don't go in with full confidence, I can't do well.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): You know, I think everyone around here has felt it--in a good way, you're very low-key, aren't you?
Kohei Uchimura: Haha, I don't know.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Is this how you normally are?
Kohei Uchimura: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): This shy Uchimura--his greatest characteristic is his landings. It is the one skill that is common to all of the events. Even a small break in his landings will result in big point deductions.
Kohei Uchimura: I first have to think about doing my routines well, but my focus on sticking my landings is almost just as strong.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): So how is Uchimura able to precisely stick his landings? Athens Olympic Gold Medalist, Hiroyuki Tomita, says that Uchimura's talent lies in the phases before the landing.
Hiroyuki Tomita (2004 Athens Olympics Team Gold Medalist): His midair sense is very good. For example, when you're in the air, if the timing of your twisting is off--being able to keenly pick up on that is one aspect of midair sense.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): In the air, even while rotating intensely, his ability to adjust his timing and form--this is what makes his accurate landings possible.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): This sense, where do you think you most honed it?
Kohei Uchimura: Well it would have to be the trampoline when I was little... Having played on the trampoline is a big part of it.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Uchimura's starting point: in fact it was not a normal trampoline, but rather a gymnastics training trampoline 20m in length on which one can do an approach run. It was on this trampoline that Uchimura's gymnastics life was developed.
Isahaya City, Nagasaki Prefecture. The gym that his former gymnast parents is here. In one corner, That Thing was still there. Uchimura first jumped on this training trampoline when he visited a gymnastics club in Tokyo at the age of 5. It was a valuable piece of equipment that at the time was not yet commonly used in Japan. His parents say that they received quite a shock, watching their son jump around on that training trampoline.
Shuko Uchimura (Mother): He was a child who would do an abnormally wide range of things on the trampoline. He did a back flip!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): On the trampoline?
Shuko Uchimura: Yes. And I remember even now, saying, "No doing back flips!" It was around when he was 4 or 5 years old. We said, "What?!"
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): He just did a back flip by himself?
Shuko Uchimura: He did one by himself.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Being able to do tricks that were impossibly difficult on the floor--having tasted this sense of satisfaction, Uchimura would from then on plead for a trampoline every time they went to Tokyo. However, the price of a trampoline: 1,000,000 yen! (approximately $10,000) It was an item that could not easily be obtained. Yet on his eleventh birthday...
Shuko Uchimura: He would say, "I want that trampoline... that trampoline is so nice," so we thought that even if we had to sacrifice everything else, we wanted to just buy this for him. (We thought that it would be worth it) If on the trampoline, this child tried more and more skills, and with it actually mastered and retained something...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): At long last Uchimura got his treasured heart's desire.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): What was it like, when you received it?
Kohei Uchimura: It was like a toy. It was like the swings at a park or something.
Shuko Uchimura: He was on the trampoline all the time. He spent more time playing on this trampoline than he did on any of the actual equipment.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): 'Next, I want to try that skill...!' His ideas grew and grew. What his mother brought out was a notebook Uchimura filled when he was in elementary school.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Wow, this is amazing!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): The notebook was packed with drawings of numerous skills. Full-twisting double back layout. Skills that Uchimura dreamed of doing, such as a double twisting double salto, were carefully drawn one by one. It was like he was a learned scholar of gymnastics. What he imagined and drew were always perfect-10 performances.
Shuko Uchimura: He would imagine, and draw by hand like this--he would draw figures, and say, "If I think I understand it, then I can do it."
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Wow...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): And Uchimura also regularly used this... a Pink Panther stuffed animal!
Shuko Uchimura: He was lying on the sofa, doing this (with his hands), so I thought, 'What?' And he would make noises as he did this--shhhhhh, like this--and when I asked, "What are you doing?" he said, "Image training." He would say things like, "Double twisting double somersault!" as he did it...
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): And as the dad, what did you think?
Kazuhisa Uchimura (Father): I thought, 'Is he going to be okay (safe)?'
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): One would worry a bit, right? So he played with it too much--
Shuko Uchimura: It turned all black, the color was almost charcoal grey--
Kazuhisa Uchimura: It became like a Black Panther.
Shuko Uchimura: And once, I thought, 'What?' because the Pink Panther was lying on his bed, and he said, "It was so dirty that I washed it." That was cute.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): He would try on the trampoline a skill that he imagined in his mind, and if could do it, then he would imagine a new skill. As he spent his days doing this, his competition results grew. As a middle schooler, he competed at the (Middle School) National Championships. When he was in high school, he dominated the (High School) National Championships.
Kohei Uchimura: It's kind of like I naturally learned the skills while I was playing around.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Really, gymnastics for you, rather than contested events, is play.
Kohei Uchimura: I think probably yes. Play... it's like, play I take very seriously.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): And at 19 years old he was chosen to represent Japan at the Beijing Olympics.
Commentator: And at the end, a triple twist. He stuck it! An amazing performance from Uchimura!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): In the All-Around, he won the first Japanese medal in 27 years. The midair sense he mastered on the trampoline had along the line become a weapon that translated onto the world stage.
Commentator: And in the All-Around, he's completed it all...!
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): Furthermore, Uchimura is now training new skills in preparation for the London Olympics in three years. The skill he is working on currently is on the floor event. Of the over 130 recognized skills, there are only two that are of the highest rank: huge skills of G difficulty.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Now, what just happened now?
Kohei Uchimura: I rotated twice backwards in a tuck position, and twisted three times sideways.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): This... is a skill that people can do?
Kohei Uchimura: I was able to do it, haha.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Narrating): He has recently become able to successfully do this skill on the floor as well. Popularly known as the "Lee Johnson." He is twisting three times while rotating twice backwards! Please watch it one more time. Uchimura says that from here on he will start challenging himself to do the hardest skills not just on floor but on all of the events. There is no end to this determination.
Kohei Uchimura: If everyone does the same things, it's not interesting for those watching, right? I think that I have to find and perform my own trademark skills, appealing to people through my ability to do things that are different from what others are doing.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Interviewing): Appeal?
Kohei Uchimura: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): You really get the sense that for Uchimura, gymnastics is truly a serious form of play, a beautiful art form. At the World Championships (2009), something happened that really represented this attitude: the last event (in the All-Around) was this high bar, and at this point there was already no question that he had won gold. His landing--it missed by a step. Even with this he won the gold medal. Normally, since he had won the gold medal, he could pump his fists, but he stuck out his tongue! When I asked him why he stuck out his tongue, he said that he wasn't satisfied (with himself). This wasn't good enough. Along with feeling that that because he is so focused he has these obsessions--you saw him training, right?
Studio Announcer: Yes.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): The thing that left the biggest impression on me was his extra (overtime) training. Usually extra training carries a sense of being pressured, but he's turned his gym into an amusement park. It's so much fun for him! At an amusement park, you go on rides and have fun, but he has so much fun with just his own body, and as an athlete (Shuzo Matsuoka is a former professional tennis player) I was so envious I couldn't stand it! With that kind of attitude, I thought, of course he'll improve...
Studio Announcer: You get the feeling that his body has become an amusement park ride for his mind.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): Yes, exactly. I think so.
Studio Announcer: But as fun as it may be, there must be struggles somewhere that he doesn't show anybody... And because of that it becomes even more fun.
Shuzo Matsuoka (Studio): All the more reason to be so focused.
Studio Announcer: Yes, it must be.
Thursday, October 21, 2010
From the Archives: 04.30.2009 食わず嫌い：つるの剛士 vs． ジェロ
最近仕事を終えてアパートに帰って、夕飯を食べながら「食わず嫌い」を観るのが毎日の楽しみです。今回はつるの剛士さん対ジェロでした。凄く面白いペアでした。
つるのさんのメニューはこの４品でした：
そしてジェロは：
つるのさんが持って来たお土産は珍しくおつまみやスウィーツではなくて、油そばでした。美味しそうでしたが、木梨憲武さんが何回も「お汁とか付いて来ないのか」と聞いてました。
ジェロは高級サンドを薦めてました。
一つ１０００円以上！
「オバカキャラっていうのもウソなんでしょ、あれ？台本通りなんでしょ、あれ？」と石橋貴明さんに聞かれたつるのさんは「あれはウソですよ、、、僕もそう思ってます。僕は頭良いんですもん」と言ってました。wwオバカだとは思いませんが、その代わり天然？
しかし、オバカ的な展開も放送中ありました。ジェロがしいたけの天ぷらを試食している間に、石橋さんが彼にしいたけの旬の季節を聞きました。当然ジェロは分からないと皆思っていましたが、そこにつるのさんが：
つるのさんは納豆を食べる時、何故かご飯の上に何粒しか掛けませんでした。一度に沢山乗せると良い量が良く分からなくなってしまうとか、、、？らっきょうは居酒屋で頼むと言ってました。ホルモン焼きのコリコリしている食感が好きだと説明しました。納豆、コリコリ食感、とらっきょうが大嫌いの私には分かりません。ww最後のカルボナーラは自分で家で作る程好きらしいです。
一方ジェロは日本に来る前からアメリカでお寿司を食べていたと言ってました。石橋さんに聞かれた時「軍艦巻き」を知らなかったですが、つるのさんが自慢げに答えてました。「分かるの？！『立て巻き』とか言うのかと思った」と石橋さんが驚いてました。wwこんなエピソードもあったので、しいたけの天ぷらは怪しかったです：
砂肝の焼鳥を試食の時、砂肝は砂で焼くから「砂肝」と言うととんねるずの２人から教わってました。そして、焼肉が大好きなジェロは勿論キムチも大好きだと言ってました。
第一の筆入れでは、自信持ってつるのさんが「しいたけの天ぷら」と書きました。ジェロは「納豆」と書きました。しかし、両側外してしまいました。その時、石橋さんとつるのさんの反応が最高：
次は「うにの軍艦巻き」と「らっきょう」でした。誰も何も言わない内から２人に何か異変がありました：
なので引き分けで終わりました。２人共罰ゲームに参加しました。ジェロはニュースで顔がモザイクで声が変えられている女性、つるのさんは中居正広さんのモノマネをしました。出来が中途半端だと怒られた２人は再びやらされていました。
確かに。
つるのさんのメニューはこの４品でした：
そしてジェロは：
つるのさんが持って来たお土産は珍しくおつまみやスウィーツではなくて、油そばでした。美味しそうでしたが、木梨憲武さんが何回も「お汁とか付いて来ないのか」と聞いてました。
ジェロは高級サンドを薦めてました。
一つ１０００円以上！「オバカキャラっていうのもウソなんでしょ、あれ？台本通りなんでしょ、あれ？」と石橋貴明さんに聞かれたつるのさんは「あれはウソですよ、、、僕もそう思ってます。僕は頭良いんですもん」と言ってました。wwオバカだとは思いませんが、その代わり天然？
しかし、オバカ的な展開も放送中ありました。ジェロがしいたけの天ぷらを試食している間に、石橋さんが彼にしいたけの旬の季節を聞きました。当然ジェロは分からないと皆思っていましたが、そこにつるのさんが：
つるのさんは納豆を食べる時、何故かご飯の上に何粒しか掛けませんでした。一度に沢山乗せると良い量が良く分からなくなってしまうとか、、、？らっきょうは居酒屋で頼むと言ってました。ホルモン焼きのコリコリしている食感が好きだと説明しました。納豆、コリコリ食感、とらっきょうが大嫌いの私には分かりません。ww最後のカルボナーラは自分で家で作る程好きらしいです。
一方ジェロは日本に来る前からアメリカでお寿司を食べていたと言ってました。石橋さんに聞かれた時「軍艦巻き」を知らなかったですが、つるのさんが自慢げに答えてました。「分かるの？！『立て巻き』とか言うのかと思った」と石橋さんが驚いてました。wwこんなエピソードもあったので、しいたけの天ぷらは怪しかったです：
砂肝の焼鳥を試食の時、砂肝は砂で焼くから「砂肝」と言うととんねるずの２人から教わってました。そして、焼肉が大好きなジェロは勿論キムチも大好きだと言ってました。
第一の筆入れでは、自信持ってつるのさんが「しいたけの天ぷら」と書きました。ジェロは「納豆」と書きました。しかし、両側外してしまいました。その時、石橋さんとつるのさんの反応が最高：
次は「うにの軍艦巻き」と「らっきょう」でした。誰も何も言わない内から２人に何か異変がありました：
なので引き分けで終わりました。２人共罰ゲームに参加しました。ジェロはニュースで顔がモザイクで声が変えられている女性、つるのさんは中居正広さんのモノマネをしました。出来が中途半端だと怒られた２人は再びやらされていました。
確かに。Tuesday, October 19, 2010
From the Archives: 11.15.2007 食わず嫌い：櫻井翔 vs． 優香
最近「食わず嫌い」にこってます〜。観ると必ずお腹が空いてしまいます。ｘ_ｘ 翔くんは意外に天然なので、今回の放送を楽しみにしてました。
まず優香さんが試食する料理はこちらでした：
一方翔くんの大好物４品は：
実は優香さんは今まで３回「食わず嫌い」に出ていて、成績は１勝２分け。
翔くんのお土産はリーフパイ！小さい頃から大好きだと言ってました。割と普通な味なので他の３人は特に食べながら反応してなかったが、私もリーフパイ大好きなので翔くんが持って行きたくなるのが分かります！
優香さんもデザートを持ってきました。フワッフワのチーズケーキ、美味しそう！日本に帰りたい〜
翔くんの前に嵐からニノがこの番組に出て、負けました。何故か対決が始まる前から翔くんも負けた気で、罰ゲームの内容まで聞いてました。かなり緊張しているようで、食べているのをじっと見られてかなりビビっていました。「もう負けちゃうよ」と石橋貴明さんに言われてました。最初から石橋さんは翔くんが嫌いなのが生春巻きだと当ててました。ww
勿論ジャニーズの話が出ました。今まで事務所に入った一ヶ月の差で先輩後輩関係が決まってたが、最近それを止めたと翔くんが説明してました。大変でしたね、、、優香さんの話は関根勤さんの妄想でした。ww
試食の時間！翔くんは全体的におそばが好きで、「朝でも昼でも夜でも」食べると言ってました。「今夜なので鴨せいろが良いかな」と言ってから、自分で「何言ってるんだろう、、、」と。生春巻きは最近好きになった食べ物で、嵐がタイに行った時にケータリングで出た生春巻きが美味しかったと言ってました。翔くんはカクテキがあまりに好きでキムチだけの盛り合わせを頼まないと言ってました。食べたら凄く汗を掻いたので優香さんと石橋さんが疑わしく見てました。「でも、太っている人は冷たいそばでも汗掻きますからね、、、」と石橋さんが呟いていました。lol? カツオのたたきの話に驚きました。小学校の修学旅行が四国で、そこ生徒達で作ったカツオのたたきを食べました。それ以来カツオのたたきが好きだそうです。豪華な経験ですね〜
翔くんはスッポン鍋を食べたことがなかったので、優香さんから少し貰っていました。スッポンを食べると本当にエネルギーが全然違うと石橋さんが言ってました。ネギトロ巻きの話は特になかったです。カラスミのスパゲッティに関しては、パスタ全てを好きだけれど、カラスミのパスタが一番だと言ってました。茄子もとても好き。
今回嫌いな物を食べて、もうそんなに嫌いではないかもしれないと翔くんが言ってました。嫌いな物を時々食べて、本当に嫌いだということを確かめるのが好きだとか。
一発で負けてしまうと石橋さんに言われた翔くんは：
「嵐って最初言われた時ちょっと嫌だったけど小雨もっと嫌です」LOL
第一の筆入れで翔くんは「ネギトロ巻き」、優香さんは「生春巻き」と書きました。そして、、、
石橋さんが予想した通り！
罰ゲームは一人で「ARASHI」をアカペラで歌うこと。ニノの姿が一緒になって放送されました。
まず優香さんが試食する料理はこちらでした：
一方翔くんの大好物４品は：
実は優香さんは今まで３回「食わず嫌い」に出ていて、成績は１勝２分け。
翔くんのお土産はリーフパイ！小さい頃から大好きだと言ってました。割と普通な味なので他の３人は特に食べながら反応してなかったが、私もリーフパイ大好きなので翔くんが持って行きたくなるのが分かります！
優香さんもデザートを持ってきました。フワッフワのチーズケーキ、美味しそう！日本に帰りたい〜
翔くんの前に嵐からニノがこの番組に出て、負けました。何故か対決が始まる前から翔くんも負けた気で、罰ゲームの内容まで聞いてました。かなり緊張しているようで、食べているのをじっと見られてかなりビビっていました。「もう負けちゃうよ」と石橋貴明さんに言われてました。最初から石橋さんは翔くんが嫌いなのが生春巻きだと当ててました。ww
勿論ジャニーズの話が出ました。今まで事務所に入った一ヶ月の差で先輩後輩関係が決まってたが、最近それを止めたと翔くんが説明してました。大変でしたね、、、優香さんの話は関根勤さんの妄想でした。ww
試食の時間！翔くんは全体的におそばが好きで、「朝でも昼でも夜でも」食べると言ってました。「今夜なので鴨せいろが良いかな」と言ってから、自分で「何言ってるんだろう、、、」と。生春巻きは最近好きになった食べ物で、嵐がタイに行った時にケータリングで出た生春巻きが美味しかったと言ってました。翔くんはカクテキがあまりに好きでキムチだけの盛り合わせを頼まないと言ってました。食べたら凄く汗を掻いたので優香さんと石橋さんが疑わしく見てました。「でも、太っている人は冷たいそばでも汗掻きますからね、、、」と石橋さんが呟いていました。lol? カツオのたたきの話に驚きました。小学校の修学旅行が四国で、そこ生徒達で作ったカツオのたたきを食べました。それ以来カツオのたたきが好きだそうです。豪華な経験ですね〜
翔くんはスッポン鍋を食べたことがなかったので、優香さんから少し貰っていました。スッポンを食べると本当にエネルギーが全然違うと石橋さんが言ってました。ネギトロ巻きの話は特になかったです。カラスミのスパゲッティに関しては、パスタ全てを好きだけれど、カラスミのパスタが一番だと言ってました。茄子もとても好き。
今回嫌いな物を食べて、もうそんなに嫌いではないかもしれないと翔くんが言ってました。嫌いな物を時々食べて、本当に嫌いだということを確かめるのが好きだとか。
一発で負けてしまうと石橋さんに言われた翔くんは：
「嵐って最初言われた時ちょっと嫌だったけど小雨もっと嫌です」LOL第一の筆入れで翔くんは「ネギトロ巻き」、優香さんは「生春巻き」と書きました。そして、、、
石橋さんが予想した通り！
罰ゲームは一人で「ARASHI」をアカペラで歌うこと。ニノの姿が一緒になって放送されました。
Monday, October 11, 2010
From the Archives: 05.08.2008 食わず嫌い：浅田真央 vs. 松本潤
スペシャルではなかったのに、超豪華のゲストが登場しました！世界選手権で金メダルを獲得したばかりの浅田真央選手と売れ続けている松本潤さんでした。
真央ちゃんの４品は：
そして松潤の大好物（−１）は：
翔くんとニノに続き松潤は嵐３人目でした。前の２人は負けたので、松潤は絶対負けないと最初から言い張ってました。どうしても一人で「ARASHI」を歌いたくないようでした。一応真央ちゃんの罰ゲームは「素足でトリプルアクセルですか？」と石橋貴明さんが聞いて、自分で「それは無理でしょう！」と否定してました。確かに、、、
石橋さんがこの共演を切っ掛けとして真央ちゃんに嵐の歌に合わせたプログラムを提案しましたが、歌詞付きはダメだという元で却下。「でも一応カラオケバージョンもありますけど」と松潤が一生懸命押しましたが、真央ちゃんはあまり話に乗ってくれてなさそうでした。ww
松潤が持って来たお土産は「お気に入りのマンゴー」でした。一つ１万円で、何と贅沢！
真央ちゃんのお土産は愛知県の白あんのいちご大福でした。普通いちご大福が嫌いな石橋さんでも美味しいと認めてました。
真央ちゃんが最初に試食して、食べた順はたらこのクリームスパゲッティ、シナモンロール、フグの白子焼き、とライチでした。スパゲッティは大抵どんな味付けでも好きだと言ってました。シナモンロールはアメリカで練習している時によく食べて（石橋さんはCinnabonのことも知ってました）、ライチはバイキングのデザートで取ると説明してました。未だお酒が飲めない真央ちゃんは関わらずお酒に合う料理が好きみたいで、フグの白子焼きを小さい頃からお父さんと一緒に食べていると。
松潤は馬刺し、ゴルゴンゾーラのクリームパスタ、バッテラ、とクリームぜんざいでした。「バンビーノ」の主役だった松潤は色々パスタを家で作ると言ってました。バッテラは駅弁で買うことが多いと言ったら、石橋さんに値段まで質問されてました。お酒が好きな松潤はスウィーツも好きなので、クリームぜんざいも美味しいと。
試食中のトークが相変わらず面白かったです。全体的にお笑いは苦手ですが、とんねるずさんだけは好きです。
石橋さんがスケートの演技とジャッジに対するアピールに関して質問してました。
そして、ちょっと前はエキジビションで愛犬エアロと一緒に「オズの魔法使い」を演じていた真央ちゃんは最近もっと大人っぽいプログラムを滑っていると石橋さんが感心していました。
そして、優勝した試合の後は興奮し過ぎて寝られないと真央ちゃんが言ってました。可愛い。
木梨憲武さん：「そういう言い方は絶対にしないと思う、、、」ww
ちなみにキムヨナ選手は本当にこの写真では子供の顔してますね。
当然真央ちゃんが好きな男性のタイプも相談に出ました。「優しくておもしろくて格好いいひとです♥」と答えてました。真央ちゃん、皆理想はそうだようね、、、
石橋さんは２０年若ければ、、、と言い始めました。ww
一方松潤は「尊敬できる人っていうのがいいですけど」と理想的な女性に関して説明してました。
また木梨さんに「なんかうるさい！」と言われてました。ww
演技後に投げられるプレゼントのことを聞かれて、全く気取っていない真央ちゃんは：
筆入れで真央ちゃんはまず「ゴルゴンゾーラのパスタ」と書いて、松潤は「たらこのクリームパスタ」と選びました。
結果は：
一発で！
嵐の成績は悪いですね。^_^ちなみに真央ちゃんが嫌いなのはシナモンロールでした。
リーダーはこの番組無理かも。何食べても美味しいと言っているので、、、
罰ゲームでは翔くんとニノの姿までが画面に映りました：
真央ちゃんの４品は：
そして松潤の大好物（−１）は：
翔くんとニノに続き松潤は嵐３人目でした。前の２人は負けたので、松潤は絶対負けないと最初から言い張ってました。どうしても一人で「ARASHI」を歌いたくないようでした。一応真央ちゃんの罰ゲームは「素足でトリプルアクセルですか？」と石橋貴明さんが聞いて、自分で「それは無理でしょう！」と否定してました。確かに、、、
石橋さんがこの共演を切っ掛けとして真央ちゃんに嵐の歌に合わせたプログラムを提案しましたが、歌詞付きはダメだという元で却下。「でも一応カラオケバージョンもありますけど」と松潤が一生懸命押しましたが、真央ちゃんはあまり話に乗ってくれてなさそうでした。ww
松潤が持って来たお土産は「お気に入りのマンゴー」でした。一つ１万円で、何と贅沢！
真央ちゃんのお土産は愛知県の白あんのいちご大福でした。普通いちご大福が嫌いな石橋さんでも美味しいと認めてました。
真央ちゃんが最初に試食して、食べた順はたらこのクリームスパゲッティ、シナモンロール、フグの白子焼き、とライチでした。スパゲッティは大抵どんな味付けでも好きだと言ってました。シナモンロールはアメリカで練習している時によく食べて（石橋さんはCinnabonのことも知ってました）、ライチはバイキングのデザートで取ると説明してました。未だお酒が飲めない真央ちゃんは関わらずお酒に合う料理が好きみたいで、フグの白子焼きを小さい頃からお父さんと一緒に食べていると。
松潤は馬刺し、ゴルゴンゾーラのクリームパスタ、バッテラ、とクリームぜんざいでした。「バンビーノ」の主役だった松潤は色々パスタを家で作ると言ってました。バッテラは駅弁で買うことが多いと言ったら、石橋さんに値段まで質問されてました。お酒が好きな松潤はスウィーツも好きなので、クリームぜんざいも美味しいと。
試食中のトークが相変わらず面白かったです。全体的にお笑いは苦手ですが、とんねるずさんだけは好きです。
石橋さんがスケートの演技とジャッジに対するアピールに関して質問してました。
ジャッジの前で体を振っている選手のマネ。LOL
そして、ちょっと前はエキジビションで愛犬エアロと一緒に「オズの魔法使い」を演じていた真央ちゃんは最近もっと大人っぽいプログラムを滑っていると石橋さんが感心していました。
そして、優勝した試合の後は興奮し過ぎて寝られないと真央ちゃんが言ってました。可愛い。
木梨憲武さん：「そういう言い方は絶対にしないと思う、、、」wwちなみにキムヨナ選手は本当にこの写真では子供の顔してますね。
当然真央ちゃんが好きな男性のタイプも相談に出ました。「優しくておもしろくて格好いいひとです♥」と答えてました。真央ちゃん、皆理想はそうだようね、、、
石橋さんは２０年若ければ、、、と言い始めました。ww
一方松潤は「尊敬できる人っていうのがいいですけど」と理想的な女性に関して説明してました。
また木梨さんに「なんかうるさい！」と言われてました。ww演技後に投げられるプレゼントのことを聞かれて、全く気取っていない真央ちゃんは：
筆入れで真央ちゃんはまず「ゴルゴンゾーラのパスタ」と書いて、松潤は「たらこのクリームパスタ」と選びました。
結果は：
一発で！
嵐の成績は悪いですね。^_^ちなみに真央ちゃんが嫌いなのはシナモンロールでした。
リーダーはこの番組無理かも。何食べても美味しいと言っているので、、、罰ゲームでは翔くんとニノの姿までが画面に映りました：
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